Secret think mattydonaldson should be banned...

[secret2]

Personally, in my opinion, homosexuality is either a genetic disorder or a cry for attention from some deprived social reject, and i wouldnt give two shakes of a little lambs tail if they (homosexuals) were all lined up and shot were it not for dreadful mess it would make on a society that has been tainted enough by their presence

Secret started a thread about being gay and mattydonaldson posted this hateful homophobic comment in there!

Secret is not angry but sad that people think like that!

Secret hopes that tennisrulz does not tolerate this!

[mattydonaldson]

<font color='#810541'>I have replied in the other thread, and i will post the same thing here, because im desperate for an answer.

So let me get this straight?

You expect me to accept your opinions, regardless of how i feel about them. But, you are free to reject my opinions because you dont like them?

Is that the scenario we are faced with here?

Im not going to apologise for these comments, because what i said is what i believe. Therefore, why should i. I dont expect homosexuals to apologise to me for what they do, so why should i? If its ok for homosexuals to be proud of what they believe, then why is it not ok for me to feel the same pride in what i believe? For me, the issue isnt simply as linear as you, and many other homosexuals i have had this discussion with, intend to make out. It isnt something as simple as whom a person sleeps with. This argument should be about the acceptance of opinions.
Tell me this secret. Would it have been acceptable had i said following your admission of homosexuality, that you should be banned from this board? Of course not? Therefore, why is it that you can suggest i should be banned because i disagree with you?

How can you be so concerned that people are saying your opinions are wrong, and then come out straight away and say that mine are wrong.

And what i have said is not the opinion of tennisrulz. As has been repeatedly stated, everyone here is welcome. What i said is not a personal attack specific to anyone, rather it is my opinion. If you are so convinced that people should be accepted regardless of opinion, then therefore you cannot argue that i should not be accepted for my opinion.
As i say, answer me that above question, and then you may be entering something resembling an intelligent conversation. Until then, i have nothing more to say.

[secret2]

Secret agrees with people having opinions but like you said you can disagree with them!

Secret thinks that shooting people on there sexuality is going too far!

One day maybe one of your kids will say &quot;I am gay&quot; &nbsp;Secret wants to know how you will react. &nbsp;Shoot them?

Secret is a very happy gay boi, but can Matty say he is truly happy thinking hateful thoughts?

Secret knows on most boards that Matty will be banned for threatening to shoot people based on their sexuality.

You need serious help, you truly do.

[mattydonaldson]

<font color='#810541'>Why do i need help?? Are you suggesting i have some psychological disorder after you have heard my opinions? Does the fact that i have these opinions mean that i need help? Why?

If you think shooting people on their sexuality is too far, then so be it. Thats your opinion. But i never implicitly said i would shoot them for their sexuality. There may well be another basis for my desire to shoot them. Who knows. Certainly not you. Maybe its so there are less people around, so my job as a stalker becomes easier. Could that be the reason?

And yes, maybe one day, one of my children will 'claim' to be gay. In which case, i will not shoot them, no. I would rather be tempted to shoot myself, as i (in my opinion) would have failed as a parent.

Of course i am happy to think such things. On no level can one have beliefs that make them unhappy. There are possibilities whereby i could be unhappy, but my beliefs are what makes me who i am. Therefore, no ones beliefs can make them unhappy.

You make the assumption that i would shoot someone based purely on their sexuality. I have never said that. However, for me, based my experience of homosexuality, not only is it wrong, but in many occasions infringes upon other people. Ive never met you, and you may be a good person in real life. Not once have i here suggested you convert to hetrosexuality. Personally, for me, i think that it is wrong. If someone said that all heterosexual people be shot, i doubt you would seem so concerned, and it is this that causes my discontent. It is not over sexuality, but it is the manner by which homosexuals portray their sexuality.

99% of people do not have an implicit problem with homosexuality as a concept, including myself. I am comfortable enough with my sexuality so as to not let someone elses decisions concern me to any great amount. HOWEVER, the behaviour of the homosexuals i have come across (no pun) and have heard about, whilst creating something of a generalisation, cause me to dislike such people.
You see the problem is that those whom i have met are so concerned that they will be singled out, that they make issue over their sexuality. Even yourself secret, came onto the board, and the first thing you mentionned was that you were gay. Why. You presumably dislike the apparent segregation, but it is yourself whom has brought about this division. Now, you may suggest that you should not have to hide the fact that your are gay. This is indeed true, you should not. However, how many people do you know have come onto this board and stated 'hello, my name is x, and im straight. will i be accepted?' By coming onto the board with such a bold announcement, you are creating the very problem you are continually complaining about.
Likewise, homosexuals seem convinced that the world is against them based on their choice of sexuality. Did you actually ask me what experience i had had of homosexuals before this argument developed to the stage where it is now? NO. of course not. Because in your mind, the reason i dislike homosexuals is black and white. This is not the case. The reasons for my discontent are my own, but are not based on sexuality. If you really want to carry out in intelligent conversation, actually find out why i carry such opinions, then you should ask me, rather than assuming the worst case scenario all the time. It is for this reason why i can bracket you and the brief exchanges we have taken of here with other homosexuals i have met, in being convinced that everyone is against them.
I do not expect anyone else to subscribe to my opinions. As i have stated above, they are my opinions based on my persona. Likewise, i have no intention to actually go and shoot anyone, before some intelligent young spark comes and throws that at me. All i request, and it is something that you yourself began by talking about, is that these opinions are accepted. I know for a fact, that for the most part, people on here will, as this community is accepting of other peoples beliefs and so i will not maintain a tirade as you have done recently. The problem here is the double standards you are guilty of by stating that my opinions are wrong

[mattydonaldson]

<font color='#810541'>plus i apologise for the disjointed nature of that last message. Football is on the radio, and im delightfully distracted

[Kacey]

Quote[/b] (mattydonaldson @ Mar. 02 2004,14:26)]And yes, maybe one day, one of my children will 'claim' to be gay. In which case, i will not shoot them, no. I would rather be tempted to shoot myself, as i (in my opinion) would have failed as a parent.
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lol...im not up for this &quot;shooting down gay people&quot;, but that was funny http://kousa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Nikola]

It's not your first time matty that people are asking from the mod to ban you, but since they agree with you, that will never happen.
Personally I feel attacked. &nbsp;http://kousa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[martinsr]

<font color='#000F22'>WELL, JUST SHUT A FUCK UP, ALL OF YOU!

[FyndhornElf]

Quote[/b] (martinsr @ Mar. 03 2004,12:47)]WELL, JUST SHUT A FUCK UP, ALL OF YOU!
that was powerful http://kousa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

LOL

Stop feeling so attacked Nikola! If you have a problem just defend your cause. That's what Matty did. He expressed his opinion and defended it. Do the same if you want to. This is a message board for christ's sake; everyone's entitled to his opinion